Jules - I've been trying to get my head around these vol charts but it just makes my brain ache too much when I try to think about what the differences will/should be compared to time. Have you got any thoughts/references etc?
UF (I'm assuming what you're asking is why the switch from time to volume charts and I'm responding accordingly...let me know if I got it all wrong....),
MY THOUGHTS
I hadn't given this much thought before you asked, and was just exploring volume-charts after having been exposed to footprint charts (I knew about footprint charts a few months back but just couldn't get pass that stage of understanding how they work - it's a tad like reading those 2000-page TWS instructional manual) in a chatroom that a friend had invited me to join for free for a few days.
I still wasn't sold after that few days, but began thinking about volume again. The fact that I rely so much on market depth tells me that I DO appreciate the significance of volume, and that the footprint chart is probably many times more informative than market depth. But there's just too much processing of info that's needed when using footprint.
I always believe that when it comes to trading, you only need an edge to lay a bet, whatever form that edge comes in. My edge is not in processing multiple sources of data before making a decision. A footprint chart is just too cluttered and requires too much pondering on the "structure" aspect of the market and comes with too many "numbers" for my liking.
Now I could always use a time-based chart and add a volume indicator to it. Doing that however, would require the analyzing of the volume indicator, and that's TOO MUCH thinking to do for me (i did say I can only process one piece of info at a time).
So in a spark of genius (I do get this once in a blue moon), I pulled out Sierra's volume charts and started experimenting with the volume size. I must have put in at least 10 different numbers before I settled for one that shows a chart that I can see very unambiguous supports and resistances, and candles that are not too ridiculous in size (something similar to 5-min was very appealing as it means I won't have to take on more risk for a "less noisy" chart).
With range and tick charts - I just simply cannot understand their workings, and I can't use anything until I can understand them. So I'll be doing more studies.
With volume charts, I understand them but I'm not able to explain in a coherent way why and how they work FOR ME. That's why my plan going forward is to explain by "showing" how I trade using these charts.
To put it even more simply, I have gone over the selected volume-charts - a few weeks of data - and I can "see" certain patterns and I can understand how the candles' opening and closing and the size of the candles relate to one another. So I decided to give volume charts a shot. I trust my understanding enough to start using them live. As I mentioned, I would explain to the best of my ability how they work as I go along. For now, I can only show that they work.
I still wasn't sold after that few days, but began thinking about volume again. The fact that I rely so much on market depth tells me that I DO appreciate the significance of volume, and that the footprint chart is probably many times more informative than market depth. But there's just too much processing of info that's needed when using footprint.
I always believe that when it comes to trading, you only need an edge to lay a bet, whatever form that edge comes in. My edge is not in processing multiple sources of data before making a decision. A footprint chart is just too cluttered and requires too much pondering on the "structure" aspect of the market and comes with too many "numbers" for my liking.
Now I could always use a time-based chart and add a volume indicator to it. Doing that however, would require the analyzing of the volume indicator, and that's TOO MUCH thinking to do for me (i did say I can only process one piece of info at a time).
So in a spark of genius (I do get this once in a blue moon), I pulled out Sierra's volume charts and started experimenting with the volume size. I must have put in at least 10 different numbers before I settled for one that shows a chart that I can see very unambiguous supports and resistances, and candles that are not too ridiculous in size (something similar to 5-min was very appealing as it means I won't have to take on more risk for a "less noisy" chart).
With range and tick charts - I just simply cannot understand their workings, and I can't use anything until I can understand them. So I'll be doing more studies.
With volume charts, I understand them but I'm not able to explain in a coherent way why and how they work FOR ME. That's why my plan going forward is to explain by "showing" how I trade using these charts.
To put it even more simply, I have gone over the selected volume-charts - a few weeks of data - and I can "see" certain patterns and I can understand how the candles' opening and closing and the size of the candles relate to one another. So I decided to give volume charts a shot. I trust my understanding enough to start using them live. As I mentioned, I would explain to the best of my ability how they work as I go along. For now, I can only show that they work.
REFERENCES
I managed to find a few (click here, here, here, and Daytrader 233's Blog) and I have to say, reading them (with the exception of Daytrader's) gives me a BAD headache. I am only doing this for you ;-) ...I knew they were out there, I just didn't bother to read up coz to me, the theory per se isn't quite as important as the application and the BOTTOM LINE. Anything that helps me to make money consistently is good enough for me. :-)Hope I haven't given you more headache...
NQJ and Jimmy:
About Top and Bottom Picking:
Depending on the context, I think it's ok to fade a trend. I can't come up with an example off the cuff now besides 2nd entry setups (I'm still feeling very drowsy...), but will show them on more charts to come. On days that are not trending, top and bottom picking is not only ok but actually necessary if you want to be able to get in on a fairly profitable trade. Brooks has some of his methods listed and Chp 15 is a good place to start (this is for Jimmy, I'm not sure if Jaya's reading Brooks).
ok, now I'm going back to sleep.
I know I'm a broken record, please bear with me. If you are reading this, I BEG you to please check out Denarii's blog and help him if it's within your means. Here's a fellow trader who might not have the resources (time, energy, capital, etc) to trade anymore, and that in itself is something that's tearing me apart. If you're a trader, and you understand how that feels, and you feel the same, I really hope you'll extend a helping hand.
ok, now I'm going back to sleep.
I know I'm a broken record, please bear with me. If you are reading this, I BEG you to please check out Denarii's blog and help him if it's within your means. Here's a fellow trader who might not have the resources (time, energy, capital, etc) to trade anymore, and that in itself is something that's tearing me apart. If you're a trader, and you understand how that feels, and you feel the same, I really hope you'll extend a helping hand.